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It is strange to have "may" only for the second half of the sentence, but not also to "negative mental health outcomes". I removed it entirely as it is implied. You could add it back in, but please have it apply to all consequences, not just some. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 19:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The previous version was ungrammatical- my edit was purely about fixing that. As for whether or not it should be conditional, I guess we should refer to the sources - do they indicate that these effects happen in all circumstances, or that they are a possible outcome? GirthSummit (blether)22:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I seriously doubt that the sources would claim that these consequences happen in all circumstances. To me, it is a question of English. When a list of consequences is listed after a cause, but without a quantifying word (like "always", "all", "may", "some", etc.), what will the reader assume? I would read that sentence (without "may") to mean that these are common consequences, but that there is no implication that all must happen in every case. In short, I think the sentence doesn't need "may". However, I can see the other side — we can use "may" so long as the consequences that should be treated equally are treated equally. I think that using "may" for only some consequences could lead the reader to assume that the others are not "may"; which I believe is incorrect. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 17:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care particularly, but I think my wording was better. 'Causes negative health outcomes' is a very broad statement, covering a very wide range of possible outcomes, from temporary anxiety to much more serious situations; making such a statement without a qualifying modal verb seems reasonable to me. When we go on to specify particular potential outcomes, each of them very serious and only happening in a small minority of cases, it then seems reasonable to qualify that with a 'may'. Does that make sense? GirthSummit (blether)18:27, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Done. Girth Summit (blether) 19:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
