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Edit request (factual error - Genesis 1)
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In the "Composition of the Adam narrative" section it states:
"Genesis 1 tells of God's creation of the world and its creatures, including adam, meaning humankind;"
However, "Adam" (or "adam") is not mentioned in Genesis 1 (he is not mentioned until Genesis 2:20 according to the Mechon Mamre page[1] as used for the citation of "Genesis 1").
Could this incorrect information be removed as follows:
− | Genesis 1 tells of God's creation of the world and its creatures, including | + | Genesis 1 tells of God's creation of the world and its creatures, including humankind; |
Thanks very much.
77.44.48.159 (talk) 10:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not done. the Hebrew text for Genesis 1 says אָדָם (adam) which means human or humankind, according to this source cited throughout the wikipedia article: [1] Rainsage (talk) 04:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the DuckDuckGo translator translates "אָדָם" as "man", not "adam". 77.44.48.159 (talk) 10:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- In verses 26 and 27 on https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0101.htm it does use "אָדָם", but it is not translated as "adam":
26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'
27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
- So while the quoted source might mention "אָדָם", the claim that Genesis 1 mentions "adam" is incorrect according to the quoted source, so I repeat my request for the information in the article to be corrected.
- Thanks very much. 77.44.48.159 (talk) 10:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have updated it to make it clear that the article is talking about the various ways the Hebrew word "adam" is used in Genesis. Rainsage (talk) 02:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have checked all 50 chapters of Genesis on mechon-mamre.org (used for the Biblical references in the article) and there is not a single occurrence of the word "adam"; there are only occurrences of the proper noun (ie, the name) "Adam": Genesis 2:20 / 3:17,21 / 4:25 / 5:1-5.
- It is therefore manifestly false to claim that the word "adam" occurs in Genesis 1, as the article currently does (and previously did):
Genesis 1 tells of God's creation of the world and its creatures, including the Hebrew word adam, meaning humankind.
- So I once again repeat my request for this false information to be removed from the article, otherwise I will be left with no option other than to conclude that the article has been protected from being edited by the public in order to promote such propaganda ("In English, propaganda was originally a neutral term for the dissemination of information in favor of any given cause. During the 20th century, however, the term acquired a thoroughly negative meaning in western countries, representing the intentional dissemination of often false, but certainly "compelling" claims to support or justify political actions or ideologies."). 77.44.48.159 (talk) 10:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have updated it to make it clear that the article is talking about the various ways the Hebrew word "adam" is used in Genesis. Rainsage (talk) 02:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Genesis 2". Mechon Mamre. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
Request to Remove or Revise Unverified Claim About Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s Statement on Adam’s Age
[edit]103.213.112.68 (talk) 01:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Adam was not male
[edit]Someone help me here. I read only English, so I wouldn't know about other (original languages). Seems to me that Only Genesis 5:2 clarifies who Adam is i.e. both male and female were NAME/CALLED Adam. Importantly so,this was the naming by God himself. Otherwise, the name Eve was by the male Adam; and most notably, the name Eve is cited to have been given (by the male) after they had sinned (ref. Genesis 3:20). Vusi Dlamini (talk) 08:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- What you are probably referring to is Adam Kadmon, the concept of Adam as perfect human-being and embodiment of both male and female humans? VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 01:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
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